The Ancient Maya: Hidden not Lost
The ancient Maya have been considered a lost civilization for many years, but what really happened to them? On this episode of The Remedial Scholar, we look into the origins of this enigmatic culture from how the indigenous people even arrived in the Americas to begin with all the way to the contact with the Spanish. Discover the hidden history of the Maya, their impressive vastness of ruins that decorate the forests of the Yucatan, the complex hieroglyphics they left behind and their calendars that caused commotion to the people of the world over a thousand years after the creation. Discover the Maya—not as a vanished civilization, but as a living testament to endurance and cultural continuity.
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How does a civilization create
massive pyramids, intricate hieroglyphics,
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:rudimentary plumbing,
advanced mathematics,
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:and a celestial calendar
that rivals our modern, scientifically
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:engineered calendars by a few minutes,
maybe even seconds?
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:How does a civilization dwarf
the amount of pyramids left by the ancient
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:Egyptians have advanced architecture
and create irrigation systems
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:for their crops, and do all of this
while being only regarded as a Stone age
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:civilization?
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:Why does such a group like this
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:make such a striking impact
on the world around them?
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:And then just vanish? Where are they?
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:Where did they come from
and where did they go?
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:Where did you come from? Ghana. Joe.
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:This week
we learn the mysteries of the Maya,
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:the people who prophesize
the end of the world.
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:In 2012, after having vanished
from the face of the earth
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:almost a millennium before all that.
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:More on
another episode of The Remedial Scholar.
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:Welcome, everyone.
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:I am Levi,
and this is the remedial scholar. I hope
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:you are excited to hear me mispronounce
every other word in this episode.
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:It's going to be fun.
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:Before we get to making a linguistic
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I have some fun ideas on how to do that
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:and some cool episode ideas
also coming up.
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:So all that preamble,
let's get into the actual episode itself.
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:This week is an exciting one.
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:This topic you, this topic itself is
also a Herculean effort for me to finish.
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:If you are a long time
listener of the show, then you're like,
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:yeah, we know we've been waiting,
waiting, waiting.
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:You're also probably thinking
that because of the fact that you know,
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:the mind up and vanished
is probably pretty tough to research.
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:And you were slightly correct.
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:Also, with slight correction,
the Maya did not vanish.
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:They're actually never even here.
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:You might be surprised to learn that
what we know is the Maya is actually
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:nothing more than a few misunderstandings
and bad translation.
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:And at the Maya,
we're actually just left handed Aztecs.
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:So we're going to be looking further
into what split
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:from the actual Aztecs
into what we believe is Maya. No.
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:Now, this this week is definitely
just about the Maya.
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:but to get a better understanding
of the Maya, like all things,
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:we got to look backwards.
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:Indigenous cultures
suffer from the lack of written history.
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:Weirdly enough, they also.
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:I mean, they
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:they did write in calf things a lot,
but it seems a little bit different
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:than what,
like the European and Asian cultures did.
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:And I kind of looked into why this is.
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:And it has to do with a few main things.
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:First, let's compare
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:some of the oldest written down
languages and cultures in Egypt.
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:Writing on papyrus can be dated back
to the mid 26th century BCE,
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:and the close proximity to the areas
around and blowing up of the trade
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:in the Mediterranean
made a be camp pretty commonplace
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:in the cultures we generally think of
when it comes to a written history.
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:The next earliest in the invention
of writing on paper
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:instead of stone comes from China,
almost:
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:years later, when fragments from a paper
map were dated.
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:These cultures are very far apart,
and even in the heyday of the Roman
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:Empire, Far East
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:Asian cultures really did not interact
with those in the Mediterranean.
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:So these two cultures
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:who have both contributed
greatly to the advancement of society,
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:whose distances are pretty,
pretty separate, you know, developed
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:their writing on paper, not stone or clay,
thousands of years apart.
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:The second issue with writing on paper,
like documentation, is that you need,
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:you know, plants suitable
to create such long lasting documents.
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:The developed paper
that the mass of American cultures
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:did end up using instead of the native
papyrus that the Egyptians use,
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:deteriorated far quicker than any other
Mediterranean or Asian versions.
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:Mesoamerican cultures use what is known
as a mate, which is a bark based paper
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:created by grinding up bark into a pulp,
type material and then drying it out.
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:And then they would write on that and,
you know, the Maya, they,
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:they did write
they developed a system of hieroglyphics,
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:one of only
a few original written languages
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:invented without external influences
all over the world.
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:Like this is one of a handful of them,
so that's pretty impressive.
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:They also
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:had their own mathematical system,
which has been proven to be very accurate.
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:So accurate that when,
the world was going to,
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:people thought the world was going to end
when their calendar ended
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:in 2012, or like, the Mayans,
they they really knew what was up.
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:but I am getting ahead of myself, like,
like I often do.
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:So what does all this paper nonsense
have to do with anything, Levi?
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:Well, just kind of wanted to demonstrate
how lucky we are to have what information
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:we do about the Maya and how a lot of it
is still an unraveling mystery.
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:Would have been a lot
easier had the Spanish not burnt
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:most of their written books
in in order to say,
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:but there's not much
we can do about that now.
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:there's only a few, codex
ins that, exist.
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:Probably, I think four maybe
when the entire world of Maya codices,
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:where their language is written down
on like books, there's only four.
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:So, so that's pretty sweet.
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:So did the Maya and other indigenous
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:cultures really not write that much down,
or did the colonizers just burn it all?
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:There's probably the latter,
but we won't know
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:until
I look into every single one of them.
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:I choose to tell you this
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:because I believe that it's important
to understand that history is always,
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:and probably history is, and probably
always will be, incomplete in many cases.
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:This is to say that I will let you know
for sure when I have like
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:this is this we know that this happened,
when facts are involved.
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:And try my best
to tell you when scientific
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:archeological hunches
are being made going forward. So
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:in that spirit, let's do some estimation
on how people even got to the Americas.
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:If human life truly did originate
and spread from the continent of Africa to
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:where everybody rests now, there are a few
leading theories on how this happened.
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:The most prominent one
is that 15 to 20,000 years ago,
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:the first Americans
descended through North America via
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:the Bering Land bridge,
which is now where the Bering Strait is.
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:During the last ice age,
the hypothesis is focused
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:around the connection of the eastern edge
of Russia on the Asian continent
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:and the northwest edge
of what is modern day Alaska.
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:DNA testing between Native American tribes
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:and Siberian people shows
that there's a close link between them,
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:and that there is a likelihood
that this is where the origin stems from.
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:This is not the only case, however.
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:There are two other DNA links
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:which the origins
that archeological archeologists surmise
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:could have contributed to or coincide
with the Bering land bridge crossing.
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:Archeologists and historians
alike hypothesize that
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:with the migration of people
to Australia 65,000 years ago,
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:that many nautical expeditions
had taken place that very well
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:could have led to the settlement
along the west coast of South America.
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:Now, if you remember from the Magellan
episode, The Pacific Ocean
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:ain't no easy feat.
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:So it makes more sense that people walked
across the Bering Land Bridge.
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:But we have to remember that the Americas
were vastly different 20,000 years ago.
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:The earliest archeological data
we have found of indigenous cultures
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:in America was thought to have been
the Clovis site, which dates around
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:13,000 years ago.
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:This discovery was made in the 1930s
near Clovis, New Mexico, hence the name.
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:The site seemed to have lined up
with the Bering land bridge,
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:but it is thought that North America
would have been frozen and not been able
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:to offer much in terms of life
for traveling people to
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:sustain themselves on, especially when
they had to walk the entire way.
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:There's another site which predates
the Clovis site, all the way down
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:in the southern, section of Chile.
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:at Monteverdi. Monteverdi.
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:I think if you're unfamiliar with
this area, that makes two of us well made.
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:Two of us.
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:Now we both know what Glasgow, Monteverdi
is in the southern section of Chile,
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:and not far, like, not so far south,
that it touches the Strait of Magellan.
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:But the cluster of islands
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:in which Magellan tried to
navigate is just south of this area.
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:Monteverdi is an archeological site
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:in which the earliest dated indigenous
sites in the Americas is located.
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:It predates the Clovis
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:site by over a thousand years,
which means that people were all the way
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:near the southern tip of South America,
much further back than we realize.
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:Now, I do realize
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:that Indonesia is much closer to Australia
than the southern tip of South.
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:A South America is to, well,
literally anything
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:except for maybe Antarctica
and the rest of South America.
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:But it doesn't make sense
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:that people would have taken boats
of some kind to the Americas,
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:while people made it to the very remote
Easter Island as far back as 400 C.E..
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:Granted, this is a long time
removed from 14,000 years ago,
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:but when you factor in that people
were traveling
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:via maritime routes that far back,
it is not completely unreasonable.
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:I can't imagine that the voyage
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:across the Pacific Ocean,
in what had to have been smaller vessels
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:that Magellan had,
could have possibly been like,
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:I can't imagine
it was very much fun, really.
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:No matter which way you slice it,
we have absolute proof that people
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:were living migrating in the Americas
almost 15,000 years ago.
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:For certain.
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:There's some other ones,
like there's footsteps
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:I can't even remember
specifically where they are,
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:but they were dated
about 22,000 years ago.
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:And it's like these, this lady walking
with, a man,
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:and then his steps disappear,
and then it's just her.
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:And then there's, like,
mammoth footprints all over the place.
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:Anyway, but if you think about what
these two sites show us,
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:that these people had to have moved
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:with some prior knowledge
because there's tools homes found.
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:So it's kind of reasonable
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:to assume that they were either near
those areas for a while, or they arrived
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:with some very thorough knowledge
of how to survive, if only for a while.
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:It's not like a bunch of babies
washed up on tour of South America
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:and just drew up like some sort of,
I don't know, Lord of the flies situation.
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:Another archeological find I want to bring
up is the find in Queenstown, a room.
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:Mexico.
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:This is the eastern section
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:of the Yucatan Peninsula,
and this particular find was found
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:on the north shore of Quinton Aru,
some 127 miles from the infamous
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:Chichen Itza, which will we will discuss
further in a little bit.
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:In this region,
a man was diving in a cenote,
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:which is a water filled cave,
and while diving
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:he came across a human skull
and attached skeleton,
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:which had been encrusted with crystallized
liquid that had fell on it from above,
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:from the stalactites above it, long before
the cave was eventually filled
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:with water.
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:Skeleton was dated to be about
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:10,000 years old, and,
it was found to be a teenage girl.
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:The suspected theory is that she fell into
the snow while looking for water.
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:I think that this kind of tells me more
than anything that there were,
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:you know, scores of people
just literally all around varying degrees
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:of lifestyle, thousands of miles apart
around the same time
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:doesn't really help pinpoint exactly
where people were or where they came from.
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:But, you know,
this is in between both sites,
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:and I guess it's younger than
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:both of those sites,
but it kind of just shows how spread out
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:the indigenous people of the Americas
were in that kind of time period.
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:So anyway, on to our actual topic.
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:the Maya kind of an interesting group
to look at, in particular
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:because of what we think
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:they were or what happened to them,
is largely misunderstood.
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:They, like many cultures around the world,
have distinct phases that they went
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:through in terms of their development,
into what we know as a civilization.
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:Interesting part about this is that they
did not consider themselves to be Maya.
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:They had no governing body
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:that oversaw all the people
who fit the description of this group.
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:This is different from people
like the Aztec, who had a defining name
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:defining a government body over
overall ruling like system.
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:Aztec also like the peak of the Maya
and the peak of the Aztecs, are different.
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:The Aztecs kind of came up
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:as the Maya had already began
to, quote unquote, collapse.
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:I'll talk why?
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:That's
kind of a quote unquote thing later.
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:But there's some overlap with the Maya
and as tech,
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:but also with different cultures
like the Inca and the Olmec.
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:Although the Olmec are probably the ones
that that Maya interacted with the most,
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:we know for sure
that they interacted with the old man
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:because that's
where they got their famous calendar.
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:they took the Olmecs calendar
and then developed
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:it even further into what we know
as the Maya calendar.
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:To that is it also important to note
that the Maya is essentially a term
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:that was chosen to describe
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:this larger group of people who did not
fit in the Aztec or Olmec categories.
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:They're definitely a different group,
but they did not, you know,
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:consider themselves
to be super different from Aztec or Olmec.
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:They obviously live
by different governing rules,
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:but they interacted
with these two cultures.
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:Maya was also a broad term
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:because there's over
30 different languages that the Maya spoke
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:regionally differentiated,
but also closely, associated
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:with one another, that they could speak
and trade within different city states.
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:It is like as if you considered
all of Europe to be one type of people.
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:Sure,
they can communicate with their neighbors
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:just fine, but it's a little trickier
the further out you go.
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:So without further ado, let's
look into what we know about the Maya.
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:According to the Maya creation
myths, in the beginning, world was a vast
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:expanse of nothingness filled with
only what the sky and an immense sea.
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:Amidst this emptiness existed
the heart of the sky known as hurricane.
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:A hurricane,
the creator of God's feathered serpent.
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:These are the most famous of the Maya
deities.
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:These divine
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:beings looked upon the void and united
their powers to bring order to the chaos.
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:Which is kind of ironic,
because it was like
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:there's nothing other than water and sky.
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:This is too chaotic.
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:We got to bring more shit into it
throughout their words.
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:But through their words, the gods conjured
into the world, into existence.
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:Mountains, rose, valleys, dipped, trees,
grew tall, animals roamed the new land.
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:And despite the beauty and abundance,
the gods were dissatisfied, for
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:the animals
could not speak or offer praise.
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:It's. Listen, you guys are very cute.
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:The squirrel is adorable,
but it can't praise me, so I hate it.
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:It's so crazy.
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:the gods desired beings
who could acknowledge their creators,
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:which you know,
I guess it was probably hard work.
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:You want people to recognize your effort.
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:Their first attempt to create humans
evolved, molding them from mud.
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:These beings,
however, were weak, crumbled easily,
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:and dissolved back into the Earth.
Obviously, they're made of mud.
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:What did you expect?
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:I mean, honestly,
you made animals just fine.
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:But then people, you're like,
I guess we'll make them out of mud.
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:Determine the gods. Try it again.
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:This time crafting humans from wood.
All right.
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:These
these wooden beings were more robust, yet
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:they lacked souls and understanding
their ignorance angered the gods.
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:You stupid piece of wood.
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:You don't.
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:You can talk and praise me,
but you just don't get it, I imagine.
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:what is it, Jimmy?
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:From eternity with Planck.
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:This is Yelena.
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:Why don't you get me? Sorry.
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:But. Yeah.
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:So, God's unleashed a great flood
and other calamities
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:to destroy these wooden people.
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:Some of the wooden beings
managed to escape and were transformed
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:into monkeys, serving
as a reminder of the gods displeasure.
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:Which is not really sure why the gods hate
monkeys, or more importantly,
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:why the Maya myth makers
hate them so much.
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:But you know, moving on,
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:the gods made a final attempt
to make their their preferred people.
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:They used dough, a sacred and vital
substance for the Maya to shape humans.
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:That's right. We're all corn.
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:You mean everyone? Corn.
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:Always have been, always will be.
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:These beings were perfect,
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:possessing the ability
to see and comprehend everything.
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:Yet their perfection posed a threat
to the gods authority to prevent humans
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:from becoming too powerful.
The gods clouded their vision.
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:Limiting their understanding
to what was necessary seems a bit rude.
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:These game gods are a little picky.
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:You got all this power
and you're so picky on what you make.
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:the story of creation
did not end there. There.
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:the adventures of the Hero twins
had hudner poo and shubhankar.
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:I'm gonna say that I nailed that,
but I don't sound too confident.
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:That's kind of like Hercules a little bit.
They went to the underworld.
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:Also, underworld is called Jabal,
which is fun to say.
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:Where they defeated the Lords
through some advanced tactics.
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:They played games.
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:They outgained the gods in a way very,
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:Very Bill and Ted.
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:Bogus journey, if you will.
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:You know, when they have to play chess
with, the Grim Reaper and whatnot,
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:their exploits not only, you know,
gave the people some, like, power
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:through, like, this is who
we want to be, but, you know, it also,
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:it made it
it set up the values for the Maya
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:people and also gave them a reason
to love cosmology.
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:They picked up,
you know, there's the heroes in the sky
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:kind of thing, you know,
like we do now with constellations.
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:Anyway, pretty fun story.
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:But I wanted to dive into the things
we know about for sure.
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:So in a historical archeological manner,
Maya culture is broken into phases.
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:The archaic period,
which is from:
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:Classic, which has further divisions
such as early, middle and late.
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:The pre Classic is defined as 2000
BCE to 200 C.E.,
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:so you can imagine with that
long of timeline,
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:kind of want to break things down
a little bit.
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:The classic goes from 250 to 950 C.E.
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:and the Post Classic,
to:
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:and then overlaps
with which with what is called the contact
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:or contact period,
which stretches from:
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:There's some overlap, as I mentioned,
but not just in timeline,
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:but also advancements, building
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:techniques, writing, and many other things
between the various periods.
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:But you know, when there are some
but not all the pieces
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:for the next movement, they kind of go,
all right, you're not quite there.
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:And then when you see all of the pieces
that are pretty like part
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:and parcel to that period, you're like,
all right,
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:that's kind of when they that's kind of
when they got there.
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:it's got it's a little archaic,
but you know, it works out overall
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:difficult to pin down exactly.
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:When things changed up similarly similarly
to how it is for us today.
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:But, you know, we do it by decades now.
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:But in 100,000 years, will alien
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:archeologist to discover our own planet
think the same?
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:Who knows?
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:Either way, we've kind of discussed
the migration
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:of indigenous people,
which happened at least 14,000 years ago.
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:But exactly when remains to be seen.
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:How did the people get from new settling
people to the mighty Mesoamerican cultures
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:we think of today? A lot of hard work.
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:There's a lot of trial and error.
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:The pre classic is based
transitional period to discuss as it takes
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:place between the archaic and the classic,
but also last:
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:So there's definitely some room for growth
early pre pre classic period as
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:is when the Maya began
to get their footing
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:as a culture that we know
and would be later known for.
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:For that they were semi-nomadic turned
farmers settling in what are known
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:as the lowlands
or the peninsula part of the Yucatan.
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:The main plants that are made that made
these early Maya settle down as one.
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:I'm sure we're all familiar with maize.
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:I kind of mentioned it earlier. Corn.
394
:The cob wobble, also known as
I don't think anybody calls it
395
:the cob wobble.
396
:But I think they said
this plant was one, one
397
:that many indigenous people across North
America utilize in many different ways.
398
:Most common was using it
399
:as a base to make a bread type meal
and using the husk to make tamales.
400
:That's my favorite way.
401
:Other things they feasted
upon were squash, beans, peppers,
402
:and the occasional sweet potato.
Yeah. Yuck.
403
:I just hate sweet potatoes.
404
:It's it's just a personal thing.
405
:You know, it's fun as this process
is not exactly an overnight one.
406
:That is, one of the earliest early
pre classic
407
:period is from roughly 2000
BCE to:
408
:It's also in this timeframe
that the Maya began to trade
409
:with the Olmec, who had a larger influence
on Maya culture,
410
:as I briefly mentioned a little bit ago
with their influence on Brain
411
:Child in the famous Maya calendar,
and so conosco.
412
:The early Pre classic period began around
:
413
:in settlement patterns,
sustenance, technology and society.
414
:Permanent inland villages
near flood prone bias provided
415
:advantageous
fishing and agricultural conditions
416
:despite maize being present,
you know, around:
417
:is not the primary diet staple yet,
leading to speculation
418
:about reliance on other crops
like manioc or casa cassava.
419
:Technological advancements
include the introduction of pottery
420
:in the burrow phase, which is around 1800
BCE with sophisticated ceramics
421
:like likely used for ritual purposes,
earliest of as evidence
422
:of chocolate use, and clay figurines
also emerged during this time.
423
:Then after this,
we have a little more of the complex
424
:pottery, just kind of stemming from this,
like origin.
425
:They, also began to have rank societies
with large capital villages
426
:and signs of social differentiation,
such as elaborate burials
427
:and depictions of shaman chiefs,
which, you know, also putting
428
:a little more emphasis on the, it's like
almost like a aristocratic group.
429
:Next phase, we have, unique pottery
decorations, more sophisticated figurines.
430
:Early pre classic sites similar to snow
scale have been found along the Pacific
431
:littoral, littoral, Guatemala
and El Salvador, but not in the Central
432
:and North America Maya areas,
or the earliest Olmec civilization.
433
:Before 1000 BCE, conditions
were not favorable for effective village
434
:farming outside of the Pacific littoral.
435
:However, during the middle pre
classic period, you know, until about 400
436
:BCE, heavy populations with pottery,
likely Mayan speaking,
437
:began establishing themselves
in both the highlands and the lowlands.
438
:These populations
439
:were mostly peasants with limited social
organization, architecture and art.
440
:In contrast, the Olmec civilization
in southern Veracruz and adjacent
441
:to Basco thrived during the early
and middle Pre Classic periods.
442
:Olmec Center
t San Lorenzo, dating back to:
443
:BCE, was the first urban capital
in Mesoamerica.
444
:Known for its giant basalt sculptures.
445
:San Lorenzo was destroyed around 1150 BCE,
446
:but its influence
spread across Mesoamerica,
447
:even into the Yucatan Peninsula,
but only like a little bit.
448
:Olmec colonists also settled
eastern San Usko.
449
:So Conosco.
I think I'm been pronouncing that wrong,
450
:because,
451
:they they settled there
because of rich cacao orchards.
452
:Which big thing, big theme.
453
:After San Lorenzo was fall,
La Venta became the new Olmec center,
454
:featuring these elaborate tombs,
jade and serpentine offerings,
455
:and significant public architecture
indicating a very powerful Olmec state.
456
:Olmec slightly likely created
the Long Count calendar, influencing
457
:obviously the Maya at this
like this is when they created it
458
:and then later
the Maya would pick up in the middle.
459
:Pre classic period,
460
:the Maya began to showcase things
that would define their classic period.
461
:Architecture
began to flourish in similar patterns
462
:across various settlements
Maya, across the lowlands.
463
:architecture
was not the only major improvement
464
:as they began to add some infrastructure
to their habitats,
465
:which is really something
that I never really considered before.
466
:They developed a very rudimentary
irrigation system
467
:further advance their already
improving agricultural methods.
468
:Villages of each state began
to show some version of a town
469
:square or central plazas,
with greater gifts
470
:within the greater
geographical area of the town.
471
:There's also
the inclusion of sporting fields.
472
:This is where the iconic ball game
would be played.
473
:If you're unfamiliar,
474
:the Mesoamerican people had a very
developed interest in physical feats.
475
:This extended to their athletic prowess,
which could be displayed in war.
476
:Also in the ball game.
477
:The name is some kind
sometimes called these pits,
478
:but most often just called the ball game
or the Maya Ball
479
:game is not a specifically Maya thing,
as many cultures
480
:in the Mesoamerica umbrella played it,
especially the Aztecs later on.
481
:This game was also pretty interesting.
482
:They, didn't use their hands or feet,
which sounds confusing
483
:because all of the sports
484
:we watched, they use their hands
and feet to move an object around.
485
:But essentially what they did is like,
dribble it off of their chest or knees,
486
:and then would like, you know, use their
hips to kind of kick it around, I guess.
487
:not I don't know,
it seems very confusing,
488
:but if you watch videos,
489
:there's like people who could will
reenact it and play the game now
490
:and you can watch them and it,
it seems relatively, interesting.
491
:I don't know, it's different because it's
just so alien to what we're used to,
492
:but it's also pretty interesting.
493
:sometimes they would use this to settle
disputes.
494
:So that's that's
495
:they would also
496
:in those cases, if they're like warring
with another town or whatever,
497
:when they played the ball game
and the other town lost,
498
:they might sacrifice
one of the people on the other team.
499
:It's fun moving right along.
500
:the, the decorated and,
501
:expansive town center also came
hand in hand with, more decorated stelae,
502
:which transcribe their hieroglyphics
and adorned many town
503
:centers, similarly to how the Greek city
states borrowed from one another.
504
:Early Mesoamerican cultures
did the same kind of thing, and the people
505
:who would be labeled
as the Maya were no different.
506
:They borrowed many, masonry techniques
from the nearby Olmec people, mostly,
507
:most likely learned through traded means
508
:because also extended to different methods
of tools and weaponry.
509
:As the Maya never made it
510
:out of the Stone age technically,
as far as tools were concerned,
511
:their general weaponry and utilities
remained constant with,
512
:some, some improvements
over the few thousand years
513
:they utilized stone tools,
wooden tools crafted with stone tools,
514
:but were also big users and,
obsidian tipped weapons into ores.
515
:Obsidian is volcanic glass, which is ever
sharp and incredibly resilient and heavy.
516
:Uses.
517
:Obsidian also doubled as a highly sought
after traded item, and it,
518
:kind of along with things like jade and,
cocoa beans.
519
:So throughout the pre classic period,
more cities began to pop up,
520
:especially in the regions
that are known as the lowlands.
521
:If you look at the Yucatan Peninsula,
the region
522
:just south of the actual peninsula
is called Southern Lowlands.
523
:They are the, they are beginning,
you know, to spread throughout this region
524
:and keeping connected from each city state
as they grow.
525
:Numbers are hard to estimate,
526
:but they were sizable enough
to have plenty temples
527
:and plenty of infrastructure
that could support hundreds
528
:of thousands of people
in some of the largest ones.
529
:It seems super impressive to me
considering I have to.
530
:I have tried to build cities and games
and can never get that high.
531
:One of the most notable examples from
this time is oh boy, Cumbernauld Junior,
532
:Cumbernauld u u.
533
:Yeah, obviously, which is located
in modern day Guatemala City.
534
:Remember earlier when I mentioned that,
there were some Maya cities
535
:that had irrigation and really dynamic
features in stone carved buildings?
536
:This city was founded towards the middle
pre classic in:
537
:but it lasted all the way until
t was eventually abandoned in:
538
:As is the case with most of Maya things,
we know most about it
539
:thanks to their hieroglyphics, when
they marked many things in their cities,
540
:as well as their dating system,
which could often include the carvings
541
:that they made or which they often
included in the carvings that they made,
542
:confused myself.
543
:Ancient Maya were accomplished
544
:astronomers and mathematicians
who developed one of the most important
545
:one of the most accurate calendar systems
in human history.
546
:They use several cyclical calendars,
including the harb,
547
:the sultan, the sultan, and,
and the calendar round.
548
:The is a 365 day calendar with 19 months,
549
:18 of 20 days each, and one of five days.
550
:Called the wired.
551
:The token is a 260 day
calendar made from a combination of 20 day
552
:glyphs and the numbers 1 to 13.
553
:Calendar round interweaves
the hub and the token silicon.
554
:I don't know, calendars
repeating every 52 periods.
555
:365 day.
556
:The Long Count
calendar was used to chronologically date
557
:events spanning more than 5100 years,
counting in cycles of 20,
558
:with an exception for the third cycle,
which approximates the solar year.
559
:The long count calendar starts
from the mythical creation date
560
:of August 1131, 14 BCE,
561
:and that cycle ended December 21st, 2012.
562
:This is the sign of a new cycle
and not the end of the world,
563
:like many people like to assume
because they, you know, see the word end
564
:and get all weird.
565
:But really,
566
:if the Maya would have been around for
this entire amount of time, realistically
567
:what it would have just meant
is a new beginning kind of thing.
568
:like, not even a rebirth, but just like,
all right, this is our new cycle.
569
:We're on this cycle.
570
:We're doing stuff differently. Slightly.
571
:Maya farmers conducted offerings
and ceremonial hour ceremonies.
572
:According to the Hobgoblin,
the silken, calendar
573
:also played a significant role
in Maya rituals, including the.
574
:Oh my gosh, what luck.
575
:Shakib, what's.
576
:Yeah. Nailed it! Ceremony.
577
:The Walk Saki Bots ceremony
in the highlands
578
:of Guatemala, marking
the start of a new 260 day cycle.
579
:Now with the calendar round combining
both the hub and a token token,
580
:I'm still not convinced
that, its completion signifies
581
:special wisdom
for those reaching 52 years of age.
582
:Every 52 years,
the calendars would synchronize a period.
583
:this period is considered to be sacred.
584
:Mentioned earlier
that they had accurately counted 365 days
585
:in the year for their mathematics.
586
:Goes way more in-depth than just that.
587
:The mathematical achievement of the Maya
is, pretty noteworthy and very complex.
588
:The Maya number system was,
it was a base 20 system,
589
:likely influenced by counting on fingers
and toes.
590
:It included advances
the features such as zero.
591
:Who would have thought that zero
such an events feature.
592
:But, an positional system, though
not a true positional based system.
593
:The interesting thing about this is that
the Maya had the concept of zero down
594
:way before the Europeans did,
and this might be silly,
595
:but think of how often the concept of
nothing might play a part in your life.
596
:Think about how the Europeans
597
:did not have something like that
until like:
598
:when the famous Fibonacci
599
:returned from traveling in North Africa
and delivered the concept,
600
:along with Arabic numerals,
to Europe, Egypt, Greece, Rome.
601
:None of these ever had zero figured out.
602
:Isn't that kind of wild?
603
:Astronomically, the Maya achieved
remarkable precision with minimal tools.
604
:They calculated the solar year
to be 365.242
605
:days, and the lunar month to be 29.30
.:
606
:Very, very close to modern values,
their interest in celestial cycles
607
:led to constructions of observatories
like the Caracol building et cheating
608
:Chichen Itza.
609
:Aside from astronomy, the Maya's
mathematical legacy includes intricate
610
:architectural decorations
with geometric patterns found in the
611
:regions, ruins, showcasing
their inventiveness and intuition.
612
:And, you know,
you kind of got to think about it
613
:because they spent a lot of time
hanging out outside
614
:and a lot of time looking at the stars
and a lot of time planning.
615
:And, you know, we we were like, man,
they're not making very many observations
616
:in science now,
but like, let's just during our lifetime
617
:think about generations of wealth,
that of knowledge that's been passed out.
618
:So anyway, that moves us right.
619
:In the classic period, this titular
this is the Maya period as we know it,
620
:considered by many
to be the height of the Maya civilization,
621
:where things that I mentioned before
with the mathematic calendar,
622
:mathematics calendars, celestial
observing and architecture
623
:really grew into their iconic selves
is in the classical period
624
:that the heavy influence of the calendar
in the way that they began
625
:to heavily date things and most
architectural achievements from this time.
626
:There are calendar dates
included in the hieroglyphics
627
:that decorated the facades
of these buildings and monuments.
628
:This is especially useful
now that we have an understanding
629
:of how the calendars work,
and can use them to tell exactly
630
:when the building was built,
which is pretty neat.
631
:During the classical period,
which, as I mentioned earlier, stretches
632
:from the second century BCE to 900 C.E.
633
:we also have one of the most influential
Mayan rulers.
634
:There's a good time to share the fact that
635
:just because Maya did not have a unified
governing body or major kingdom presence
636
:in the same way that the Aztec
or Inca had their city states,
637
:who often fought one
another struggled in these fights.
638
:one such location in
is in the city of Plunkett,
639
:which had been dealing with some major
rival disputes with the Catholic.
640
:More turnover for rulers of Lincoln
was pretty bad, and Catholic more
641
:attacked them consistently over and over
during the fourth and fifth centuries.
642
:With the tumultuous time
643
:that the attacks and leaders
who were unable to make any meaningful
644
:progress in their city, the people of
Lincoln felt, you know, very disparaged.
645
:Religious ceremonies were ignored, linked
even more, people just being alienated.
646
:There's even glyphs which stated the fact,
you know, like people aren't praying.
647
:That's not what they said specifically.
But, you know, you know, it's bad.
648
:You know how bad
649
:your city is missing
a religious ceremony or ceremonies.
650
:There has to be a it has to have
an artisan carve it into a building.
651
:That's pretty bad. Things felt bleak.
652
:That was until the son of a woman
who assumed the role as a leader of
653
:the city was brought into the fold.
654
:Sack.
655
:Cook was the daughter of a man
named Jenab Khalil,
656
:who is the namesake for her son.
657
:I explain that very confusing,
but he her son, took
658
:power at age 12, assisted by his mother
for a quarter of a century.
659
:The young Pascal, also known as Pascal
the Great began to run the city
660
:in the right direction.
661
:City experienced a great renaissance
under Picard's guidance.
662
:Majority of the buildings
in Pelinka were constructed during his
663
:nearly 70 year tenure, remodeling
current buildings, adding new
664
:and majorly improved structures
that feature
665
:some of the greatest and latest
breakthroughs of Mayan engineering.
666
:Plank was advanced as it features
some of the rudimentary pseudo plumbing
667
:which fed sweat baths, latrines, and, of
course, water for crops, which is amazing.
668
:They had sweat, sweat baths, figured out.
669
:Buildings were constructed
with iconic vault style
670
:that would be found in many other
classic and Post Classic Maya buildings.
671
:Although there were no great success
stories in the buildings,
672
:he did not rule unchallenged
during his reign.
673
:The warriors of pulling battle
against external foes quite often,
674
:but just as often found themselves
victorious.
675
:The success of percale is important
in highlighting a few different things.
676
:Firstly, the lack of religious effort
before he took over versus the importance
677
:he placed on building
678
:temples, doing rituals
at the beginning of his reign in an effort
679
:to please their gods, who in turn provided
some favor towards him and his reign.
680
:This is a pattern
that is seen in a few mind states,
681
:where at a certain point, emphasis
on religious practice does get placed.
682
:And maybe it worked
and it did keep doing it.
683
:So or it stops working and they move on.
684
:More on that,
more on the latter in a little bit.
685
:It's kind of a great system. No,
because like,
686
:you don't swear religious fealty,
support my reign as king.
687
:And if I do a good job, you know,
or the gods support my rule, then
688
:if things work out
and I'm actually good at my job,
689
:it will look like the gods favor me.
690
:So this is my thought on ancient systems
of like God kings.
691
:They really are really effective ones.
692
:Really, really helped the spread
of the power of their dominant religion.
693
:If you think about it as you move through,
towards the modern age, through history,
694
:the power of who is running,
whatever place
695
:it may be largely focused on the gods
supporting them.
696
:Then, as time moves forward,
the common people become more educated.
697
:Facts become a little more obvious, and
then the leader is a little more to blame
698
:because of their actions,
699
:rather than they displease
the gods in some vague fashion.
700
:Let's you actually did it.
701
:I digress.
702
:The reason we know Picard's
great leadership is due to a few factors.
703
:The first, obviously,
704
:the inscriptions of the monuments and
buildings constructed during his reign.
705
:As I stated before, they often tagged them
with the dates of the buildings.
706
:And then when the general events,
like what general events
707
:were happening at the time,
which I think we should go back to.
708
:Welcome.
709
:Welcome to McDonald's.
710
:This building was constructed
on the third day of June:
711
:When it was constructed,
it was the only building
712
:within a five block radius,
and during construction, a man
713
:drove into the building
and defecated on the fresh concrete.
714
:Something like that.
715
:It would be fun.
716
:I thought it would actually be cool
717
:if they did that with buildings
that they take spot of other buildings.
718
:They knocked some,
719
:you know, classic Art Deco building
and put up a soulless square building,
720
:leaving a picture of what was replaced
so that people know the new architects.
721
:All right.
722
:So back stepping off here, the other way
to tell how important a leader was
723
:is to base off
their funerary elements, right.
724
:Because definitely upper
echelon of importance.
725
:His tomb was being prepared well before
he died, which not super duper uncommon.
726
:But when he died,
727
:they had devised a way for him
to be placed in sealed nice and neatly.
728
:His funeral mask was made
from the prized jade which the Maya loved.
729
:This thing was pretty wicked too.
730
:He was, you know,
he was in his 70s, having ruled from 615
731
:until his death in 683,
so he clearly was doing something right.
732
:The death mask is completely made of jade
with like 12 chains of jade as well.
733
:Massive spine earring
734
:type things, Jade bracelets, rings
and pins to go on clothing.
735
:The cover of his tomb is also fantastic.
736
:Features him curled up in a seated
position like sideways like profile view.
737
:You could call it
738
:an like elaborate decoration
of what looks like a throne under him.
739
:And then there's like this massive tree
and like, masks floating around.
740
:Obviously, I'm gonna put an image
of these things on the social media posts
741
:and then in the video companion, so,
you know, don't forget to look for those.
742
:But percale is one of the most famous
kings of the mind city.
743
:And he brought his city to a great power.
And you'd think.
744
:But the footing he left in it,
it would succeed for a long time.
745
:But this is not not really the case.
746
:If you have a standard passing
knowledge of the Maya,
747
:you might be thinking that is around
this time that they began to disappear.
748
:The famous vanishing of the Maya.
749
:The only problem with this theory is that
there's still Maya around to this day.
750
:Many people believe that they were wiped
out with the arrival of Spanish as well,
751
:but this is also not the case.
752
:I mentioned
the phases of the Maya time periods,
753
:and that the classic period
is what truly defines
754
:what we think of as the Maya to this day,
and that there are sections to the
755
:classic period, while the early and late
classic are what I've described until now.
756
:So now we're entering
what is known as the Terminal Classic.
757
:The name like, that's pretty easy
to guesstimate what is about to happen.
758
:Even so, there's
759
:some misrepresentations of what happened
because we really don't have a full story.
760
:There are a few leading ideas
and theories, but before I get to those,
761
:I want to describe what is found
in archeological realm from this time.
762
:At this time we have cities.
763
:No longer expanding.
764
:In the years after cause death
in the eighth century,
765
:there are no new buildings
being built at all.
766
:There's also the same issue
and numerous other Maya sites.
767
:Not all the same time, but
around each other around the same time.
768
:For sure.
769
:This is often described as a collapse,
which if you look at the city
770
:itself, no longer expanding.
771
:And soon people began to leave. The city
collapsed.
772
:Sure, the Maya civilization did continue
on, though they did
773
:what they did
before they had these cities.
774
:They moved. They moved to others.
They started new ones.
775
:Some of the most notable Maya cities
that we know of today
776
:actually started around
the time of this so-called collapse.
777
:So let's talk about what is happening
during this time.
778
:Well, the leading theory is that one of
the droughts and subsequent lack of food,
779
:there carvings from around this time
that indicate that the people were people
780
:themselves, were attempting
781
:to please the gods in whatever ways
they could that there, you know,
782
:and there are scientific data points
that have been taken from caves, senators
783
:and the like,
784
:which revealed different isotopes
within crystallized selected stalagmites
785
:that point towards low amounts of water
for many years in this time period.
786
:Actual science behind
787
:it is pretty intricate, but essentially
they found certain pairings of isotopes
788
:in these crystals that indicate
that there were a few major droughts.
789
:What causes these droughts?
790
:The main idea
is that the Maya actually deforested.
791
:So much of their region that it affected
the environment and produced,
792
:that produced rainfall, the sharp
and vast forest region becoming nothing.
793
:It makes the region much hotter,
affects the amount of rainfall.
794
:And then that affects affects the crop
rotation.
795
:There's scientific data
to back that up from 802,000 C.E.
796
:was one of the most arid times
in the Yucatan.
797
:And a quote from this PhD candidate, well,
this is from:
798
:He's probably a doctor by now.
799
:But, Nick Evans of Cambridge
said, quote, rainfall decreased on average
800
:by about half and up to 70%
during peak drought conditions.
801
:This is all very interesting.
802
:But then
how does that go to affect the Maya?
803
:Well, you could say that
804
:they're very crafty with their irrigation
water reservoirs and whatnot, right.
805
:The bigger issue is that they're focused
on one main crop at a certain point,
806
:maize, the corn crop.
807
:They'd put so much into using this crop,
which cannot do well in droughts.
808
:And because of that,
809
:the food stores begin to dry out,
both figuratively and literally.
810
:The Maya were effective in their methods
of constructing, expanding,
811
:as well as farming and irrigation
based on all success that they had.
812
:They just did not have the data
that would show them
813
:that they overextended themselves
in many different ways.
814
:Their population
grew vastly during the classic period,
815
:and this requires a lot of food and space
for people to live in.
816
:Space means clearing out rich jungle
and planting more food and feeding more
817
:people. Now,
I've been playing a lot of manor
818
:lords lately
and I promise this will connect.
819
:And in this game
820
:you are starting a medieval settlement
and you're trying to expand your village
821
:and use the finite resources along
with agriculture and military expansion.
822
:I've struggled in each game.
823
:I start with feeding my people
after a certain point, try to set up
824
:a few different fields, rotate crops,
make sure the soil stays fertile,
825
:and yet every couple of years
I dip into dangerously low food reserves.
826
:What I'm trying to say
827
:is that it's very hard to manage things
like this, even on a virtual small scale.
828
:So imagine their crops not growing
829
:because of no water or little water
depleting the reserves.
830
:This causing people to just leave,
find a better place
831
:to live makes total sense to me.
832
:There were some tactics
that they tried to apply before completely
833
:abandoning their cities, though.
834
:A major archeological find known as the
as the Calm Conveys was found in the pit
835
:of just like a bunch of random things,
and it was broken into a bunch of big
836
:broken face in a broken pit,
all of broken dreams in a broken city.
837
:What's so special about it?
838
:Well, this place is actually decorated
completely with hieroglyphics
839
:spelling out things
840
:that would normally be told in building
form with no new buildings.
841
:This space
842
:from the middle of the Terminal Classic
period kind of sheds some light on.
843
:You know, the city in modern day believes
this space tells about the, various,
844
:events at the time, which is standard,
but also tells about the efforts
845
:the city and the king were taking
to pull themselves out of the struggle.
846
:At the time, the King was doing things
like leading attacks on neighboring cities
847
:to take their resources, also
doing a lot of rituals and sacrificing.
848
:This is a point of pause, because I think
the I often get wrapped up with the Aztec
849
:and how often or how they perform
sacrifices both cultures did.
850
:And by no means were the Maya.
851
:These holistic and peace loving people.
852
:But compared to
the Aztec, they kind of were
853
:compared to compared to the Aztec.
854
:Most people were.
855
:But predominantly
the Maya defaulted to blood sacrifices,
856
:but again, not as extreme as you are
thinking they would do bloodletting,
857
:which is a form of ritual
in which they bleed into an effigy
858
:or cauldron of swords.
859
:And this blood is an offering to the gods.
860
:They did sacrifice humans ever
so often as one does, but it was
861
:it was rarely their own citizens,
typically capturing an enemy combatant
862
:and sacrificing them,
which I suppose is not much better
863
:than killing your own people,
but a do what you got to do regardless
864
:the come, come.
865
:This gives us a peek into the day, day
to day of the Maya people in this region
866
:as their city begin to
867
:fold under the weight of this situation,
some Maya people in cities began
868
:to flee in droves, in some cases
leaving behind many important things.
869
:In one such case that in Kenya,
people left the city so quickly
870
:that a child was left unburied,
which is completely abnormal for the Maya.
871
:So this kind of speaks to the rapid nature
of some of these evacuations.
872
:The remainder of the Terminal Classic
is much the same.
873
:People leaving the cities,
874
:traveling to new ones, new cities
taking hold in the post classic period.
875
:There is also as movement of the Maya
from the highlands
876
:into lowlands,
the actual Yucatan Peninsula proper.
877
:This coincides with cities
like Chichen Itza, although Chichen
878
:Itza itself has beginnings that date
a little bit further back to Late Classic
879
:most likely actually have a piece
of some of the ruins.
880
:some.
881
:This is it.
882
:Some of my friends visited,
visited the site and grabbed this.
883
:They grabbed it right off of the ruins
when nobody was looking.
884
:I mean, is it super fascinating?
885
:Not not particularly,
but this episode had kind of given me
886
:a little more interest in it
and, respect for it as well.
887
:I did ask them to grab it.
888
:But here here's the thing is,
I feel like I didn't ask them
889
:to bring me a whole temple.
890
:I just kind of wanted
I just wanted a little piece of history.
891
:I like collecting things.
892
:One of the more intriguing parts of,
893
:the city is actually called El Caracol,
which I talked about earlier.
894
:Is that observatory.
895
:You know, these people were so in love
with stars that they had observatory,
896
:which is super fascinating
and not surprising.
897
:But, you know, they had rudimentary
plumbing in some cities,
898
:but it's still pretty cool nonetheless.
899
:Sites also featured, the sports ball
arenas that I told you about.
900
:And then also they had the step pyramids.
901
:Most notable of these is the, Cuzco Corn
pyramid,
902
:named after the feathered serpent god,
which features an iconic step design.
903
:Part of this design actually
casts a shadow that looks like a serpent
904
:on the side of the pyramid,
around a spring and fall equinoxes, which,
905
:you know, kind of demonstrates
the Maya's skill at both architecture
906
:and their understanding
of the celestial universe around them.
907
:The shadow of the serpent, ascending
or descending the steps of the pyramid
908
:is visible for a week or so before
and after the equinoxes, so it's not
909
:as if they have like an exact day down
for this specific type of thing,
910
:but other buildings lining up
with further away stars and planets
911
:on specific dates of the year, indicate
that they were able to get fairly close.
912
:As stated, the city itself
913
:did grow during
914
:the Terminal Classic period,
which is different from many other cities.
915
:Other cities like Maya Pan,
916
:which is the namesake for the culture
as a whole, had battled with people within
917
:Chichen Itza, but there no hard evidence
pointing to any decisive victory.
918
:Chichen Itza is actually kind of unique,
as it held
919
:many culturally different people
within its limits.
920
:this is demonstrated by more diverse
architecture and art style.
921
:Pizza were an ethnic group
within the umbrella of the Maya.
922
:The name Chichen Itza translates roughly
to at the mouth of the well of the Pizza.
923
:Chichen Itza is a little easier to.
924
:The other one's a little wordy
as the site.
925
:The site is near
a major snow day, so notice,
926
:we're very much ingrained in the religion
and rituals of the Maya.
927
:One video I watched,
they described the fact that the mouth
928
:of these caves, these cenotes,
look like actual mouths.
929
:Sometimes they have stalactites
and stalagmites
930
:that look like teeth in their dark,
and the sounds that come from them
931
:when you know the air
rushing past as you approach can feel
932
:very much like breathing, especially
if that's your only interaction with them.
933
:I think people make fun of historical
people and or like how silly I was.
934
:Silly. Why would they believe that
there's so crazy?
935
:It's obviously just a cave, bro.
936
:You know? Or like whatever
the thing might be.
937
:But like considering how they had
basically no information on a topic
938
:unless they or someone else
had showed them or taught them about it.
939
:There's no wonder why
940
:there's so many like, deities
to think about on a daily basis.
941
:Mentioned Maya Pan, which, event
which became one of the larger cities
942
:following the slight decline of Chichen
Itza Maya
943
:and possibly grew from some traditional
Maya people, feeling
944
:that the cultural assimilation
within Chichen Itza was too, too much,
945
:and they wanted to return
to some more Maya centric city.
946
:A little back to the basics, man.
947
:Sounds a little racist.
948
:No, I have no idea, but it's it's
fun to be ridiculous like that, right?
949
:This transition is actually part
of a bigger cultural,
950
:cultural transition as well.
951
:The Maya had already begun to rely
952
:less on rituals, possibly
because they weren't working or because,
953
:or whatever.
954
:But either way,
the Maya focus less on religious fealty
955
:and more on practical
methods of surviving.
956
:There is an asterix to this,
since they still did pray
957
:to rain gods, probably
having some sort of drought based PTSD.
958
:Maybe like like America
after the dust bowls.
959
:You know, overall,
there was more militarization
960
:within the Maya cities, warring
more frequently than before.
961
:There were inclusions of other groups,
such as the Toltec as well,
962
:which I don't think played a part
in the rise of violence, but I didn't
963
:know where else to add it in is the post
Classic period, which began around
964
:950 C.E., saw the last length of the Maya
before the Spanish arrival.
965
:this period is not as easily studied
966
:and there's not as much information on it
either.
967
:I can't help
968
:feel like it relates to the arrival of
969
:Spanish in their pressure to suppress
indigenous cultures, like a lot of,
970
:a lot of the things that they were doing
at that time demolished, but like ruins
971
:that weren't really inhabited
at that time, that were inhabited
972
:a couple hundred years
ago. Still around. Right?
973
:Either way, the Post Classic period
974
:showed more abandonment
of some of the longer lasting cities.
975
:I mentioned the one earlier.
976
:Come now, all the way back.
977
:Common knowledge area.
978
:I think I think that's pretty close,
which had been occupied
979
:for over 2000 years at that point.
980
:Larger
theme could be that many of these cities
981
:found themselves susceptible to attacks
and an increase in occupation of cities
982
:that were located on hilltops
983
:or coastline, which needed only, you know,
one lane of events were more preferred.
984
:Wasn't too long before other cities
like Maya Pan were abandoned by,
985
:you know, around 1450, shortly after this
first contact with Spanish occurred,
986
:known as contact period,
beginning in the:
987
:when the first explorers
wrecked off the Yucatan coast,
988
:where most of the survivors
probably ended up captured and sacrificed.
989
:I mentioned, you know, they would
sacrifice their military opponents.
990
:So make sense?
991
:The reclusive nature of the Maya
at this point actually
992
:probably saved them from a faster fate
that the Aztecs received,
993
:which, you know, kind of summarize
because they deserve their own episode.
994
:But while that the Maya
had initial contact with their cities
995
:on the Yucatan Peninsula,
996
:you know, which was an excellent
landing point for the Spanish coming from
997
:the previously discovered Carib Caribbean
islands, they were super spread out,
998
:not connected by their, you know,
overarching government and harder
999
:to maintain power over
because you might take over one city,
:
00:52:38,188 --> 00:52:41,892
but another city has no real connection
to that other than trade.
:
00:52:42,292 --> 00:52:45,695
The Aztec, on the other hand,
were a solid government centralized power.
:
00:52:45,695 --> 00:52:49,466
Because of this, when their capital fell
to the Spanish, more accurately,
:
00:52:49,466 --> 00:52:54,104
when their leader invited the Spanish in
and gave them instant access to help their
:
00:52:54,671 --> 00:52:58,241
instant access to their interior,
which further helped the Spanish
:
00:52:58,241 --> 00:53:00,877
infiltrate
and recognize the weakness within,
:
00:53:00,877 --> 00:53:01,878
but more importantly,
:
00:53:01,878 --> 00:53:05,682
brought the European diseases
directly into the heart of the largest
:
00:53:06,016 --> 00:53:09,753
and wealthiest cities in Mesoamerica,
a city which traded with other
:
00:53:09,753 --> 00:53:11,288
indigenous people around the area.
:
00:53:11,288 --> 00:53:14,291
You know, a lot of the issues
surrounding the the,
:
00:53:14,291 --> 00:53:17,427
narrative of the Spanish conquest relies
on first hand testimony
:
00:53:17,427 --> 00:53:20,997
of the conquistadors themselves,
who often embellish their stories
:
00:53:20,997 --> 00:53:22,899
to make themselves
look better than they did.
:
00:53:22,899 --> 00:53:26,102
The main thing I want people to know
about the Spanish is that
:
00:53:26,102 --> 00:53:29,839
these were not even trained military men,
like there was probably some,
:
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:33,009
but they were the equivalent
of like contracted explorers
:
00:53:33,009 --> 00:53:35,445
as Spain kept their real soldiers
near the homeland.
:
00:53:35,445 --> 00:53:38,248
You know, you might need those closer
to England case.
:
00:53:38,248 --> 00:53:41,484
Things get crazy,
or the Portuguese probably didn't.
:
00:53:41,484 --> 00:53:43,019
Portuguese.
:
00:53:43,019 --> 00:53:47,791
so these men, some of whom had military
experience but not all, were outnumbered.
:
00:53:47,791 --> 00:53:51,962
And while they did have superior armor,
we know that from the Magellan episode
:
00:53:52,028 --> 00:53:56,266
that does not automatically qualify
us being superior fighting ability.
:
00:53:56,299 --> 00:53:59,169
We also know that, diseases,
including smallpox,
:
00:53:59,169 --> 00:54:02,439
had reached the highlands faster
than the Spanish conquistadors.
:
00:54:02,439 --> 00:54:03,206
Despite this,
:
00:54:03,206 --> 00:54:07,077
by the time the Spanish top of the Aztec
and set their sights on the Maya,
:
00:54:07,077 --> 00:54:11,114
the diseases were already wiping out
the indigenous population all over.
:
00:54:11,181 --> 00:54:15,352
Still, the Maya fought on and actually
put up like a really, really good fight.
:
00:54:15,986 --> 00:54:18,588
I mean, first contact::
00:54:18,588 --> 00:54:20,991
and it wouldn't be till almost
:
00:54:20,991 --> 00:54:24,261
so the:when they actually, like, relented
:
00:54:24,327 --> 00:54:29,966
and even still like there was anyway,
other indigenous people use the Spanish
:
00:54:29,966 --> 00:54:33,303
as lust for gold as a tool
to help eliminate their opponents,
:
00:54:33,303 --> 00:54:35,272
which definitely didn't make any things
better.
:
00:54:35,272 --> 00:54:36,539
But, you know, things like that
:
00:54:36,539 --> 00:54:40,343
make me curious if the indigenous people
had, like, banded together
:
00:54:40,343 --> 00:54:44,714
instead of being so divisive, like,
what would have the outcome have been?
:
00:54:44,714 --> 00:54:47,851
Eventually the Spanish
would have probably used more force
:
00:54:47,851 --> 00:54:49,052
sending more and more people.
:
00:54:49,052 --> 00:54:50,787
But like those trips take time
:
00:54:50,787 --> 00:54:54,391
and they could have only sent
like 50 to 75 guys at a time.
:
00:54:54,391 --> 00:54:58,261
I don't know, an alternate
history is super fun topic to think about,
:
00:54:58,261 --> 00:55:01,631
but either way, the Spanish began
to settle in the region and further push
:
00:55:01,631 --> 00:55:05,769
towards the upper Yucatan
and in the late 16th century,
:
00:55:05,835 --> 00:55:11,341
like:when the last Maya city state of Egypt,
:
00:55:12,375 --> 00:55:15,812
Najib P10 located in the P10 basin,
:
00:55:15,845 --> 00:55:16,613
essentially
:
00:55:16,613 --> 00:55:20,583
the innermost section of the Yucatan
like real main body of the Yucatan,
:
00:55:20,583 --> 00:55:23,953
I assume partly because they were so rural
and isolated in the forest,
:
00:55:23,953 --> 00:55:26,323
is why it took Spanish
so long to locate it.
:
00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:30,627
But also like,
you know, ferocity had to been a factor
:
00:55:30,627 --> 00:55:35,365
that the Maya city did fall of,
even however hard they fought.
:
00:55:35,365 --> 00:55:37,033
And then the Maya disappeared forever.
:
00:55:37,033 --> 00:55:39,736
Right? Remaining mysterious,
we all wonder what happened.
:
00:55:39,736 --> 00:55:43,239
This once great civilization. Not.
Not now.
:
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,608
I don't understand
why people like to say they.
:
00:55:45,608 --> 00:55:47,644
That they are such a forgotten people.
:
00:55:47,644 --> 00:55:51,881
There are an estimated 15 million genetic
Maya people living today.
:
00:55:51,981 --> 00:55:55,418
Not a super massive number,
but still nothing like no slouch.
:
00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:58,621
They definitely endure many issues
and lack of recognition
:
00:55:58,621 --> 00:56:01,191
by governments of Central America,
but they do exist.
:
00:56:01,191 --> 00:56:03,026
And they don't just live in
small villages.
:
00:56:03,026 --> 00:56:06,863
They're not like the Mesoamerican version
of like the people in the Seminole Island
:
00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:07,430
or something
:
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:12,402
like they have their cultural centers
where they do like, live authentically.
:
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:17,140
but the Maya definitely faced,
like the full brunt of Spanish,
:
00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:22,145
like the witch in the remote villages
that they were found in.
:
00:56:22,145 --> 00:56:25,815
I guess they were subjugate,
they were subjected to harsh treatment
:
00:56:25,815 --> 00:56:30,320
in the name of the conversion, you know,
to Catholicism, victims of annatto, to fe.
:
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,823
Like I mentioned, you know, convert
or die, we're going to burn all your,
:
00:56:33,823 --> 00:56:37,527
you know, your personal ethnic
like things.
:
00:56:37,527 --> 00:56:38,762
Forget your culture.
:
00:56:38,762 --> 00:56:43,199
You're assimilating other indigenous
cultures face the same, treatment.
:
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:44,567
All of them were either,
:
00:56:44,567 --> 00:56:46,669
you know, forced to assimilate
under Spanish rule
:
00:56:46,669 --> 00:56:50,240
or subjugated to slavery
while millions of the population died off
:
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:53,543
thanks to the disease
or the treatment themselves.
:
00:56:53,543 --> 00:56:56,479
Biological warfare
wreaked havoc on the population,
:
00:56:56,479 --> 00:56:59,115
but there's no way to know
exactly how bad it was.
:
00:56:59,115 --> 00:57:02,786
Estimates range from 70
to 90% of the population affected, which,
:
00:57:02,819 --> 00:57:06,623
you know, would have killed off
tens of hundreds of millions, maybe more.
:
00:57:06,623 --> 00:57:09,926
You know, it's it's hard to tell
what the actual original population
:
00:57:09,926 --> 00:57:10,727
was, but still,
:
00:57:10,727 --> 00:57:11,928
it was actually partially due
:
00:57:11,928 --> 00:57:15,231
to this fact that these indigenous slaves
were dying off.
:
00:57:15,231 --> 00:57:19,736
That fueled the transatlantic slave trade
to give an influx of free labor
:
00:57:19,736 --> 00:57:23,239
for the lazy settlers and greedy countries
looking to make fast cash
:
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:26,876
off the New World, Maya cities
return to the jungle, becoming overgrown
:
00:57:26,876 --> 00:57:28,144
and ignored largely
:
00:57:28,144 --> 00:57:31,981
until the 19th century, when explorer
exploration and history became
:
00:57:31,981 --> 00:57:36,052
a bigger interest of the wealthy American
and European citizens.
:
00:57:36,085 --> 00:57:39,255
Two men are responsible
for a larger increase of interest
:
00:57:39,255 --> 00:57:41,991
in the Mesoamerican culture,
specifically the Maya.
:
00:57:41,991 --> 00:57:46,229
John Lloyd Stephens and Frederick
Cather Catherwood explore Maya
:
00:57:46,262 --> 00:57:47,430
as sites, Catherwood
:
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:51,334
providing illustrations of these places
which are honestly pretty, pretty sick.
:
00:57:51,334 --> 00:57:55,104
John makes kind of want
to, work on my still life and landscape
:
00:57:55,104 --> 00:57:55,905
skill a little bit.
:
00:57:55,905 --> 00:57:58,675
These drawings and the writings of Stevens
inspired many people
:
00:57:58,675 --> 00:58:01,878
to search out these ruins and learn
more about the forgotten culture.
:
00:58:01,878 --> 00:58:06,282
So, so that's that's kind of the history
of the Maya people as far as timelines go.
:
00:58:06,282 --> 00:58:08,318
So that is the history of the Maya people.
:
00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:11,421
As far as timelines
go, there's plenty more information
:
00:58:11,421 --> 00:58:13,189
about the Maya to go through,
but I will leave you
:
00:58:13,189 --> 00:58:16,926
with some more interesting aspects
in this little summary here that,
:
00:58:16,926 --> 00:58:19,195
you know,
they invented the spherical ball game,
:
00:58:19,195 --> 00:58:22,599
which was played without using feet
or hands that I mentioned.
:
00:58:22,899 --> 00:58:26,202
this game, intense,
used to settle disputes.
:
00:58:26,469 --> 00:58:30,273
some cases a player from the losing team
would get sacrificed.
:
00:58:30,273 --> 00:58:32,242
So that's pretty hardcore.
I don't know if they like
:
00:58:33,810 --> 00:58:36,813
if, like, Tom Brady was still playing
and they're like,
:
00:58:36,813 --> 00:58:40,116
all right, well Tom Brady lost
and they just executed.
:
00:58:40,817 --> 00:58:41,751
That'd be crazy.
:
00:58:41,751 --> 00:58:46,055
when the Maya did fight, they,
incorporated some interesting weapons
:
00:58:46,322 --> 00:58:47,857
like that of the Hornet bomb.
:
00:58:47,857 --> 00:58:49,392
That's exactly what it sounds like.
:
00:58:49,392 --> 00:58:50,493
They threw a hornet's nest
:
00:58:50,493 --> 00:58:54,264
at their enemies, which is hilarious
and evil like, super useful.
:
00:58:54,330 --> 00:58:55,231
I also want, again,
:
00:58:55,231 --> 00:58:57,567
to call your attention
to the level of engineering
:
00:58:57,567 --> 00:58:59,936
for being essentially
a Stone age civilization.
:
00:58:59,936 --> 00:59:03,840
They were able to craft magnets for neck
magnificence and structures, incredibly
:
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,644
well designed systems of early plumbing,
and they informed incredibly
:
00:59:07,644 --> 00:59:09,112
well until they didn't.
:
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I guess they just mold themselves
in the end.
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But, they're adorning of jade
and obsidian, as well as ceramic
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and natural gems from the region
made their outfits look pretty badass.
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They had the handsome staff look it up.
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Look, look up some ancient Maya clothing.
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They had it figured out.
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I also want to point out some pop culture
representations of the Maya.
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Starting off with a misguided attempt.
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Mel's with Mel Gibson's Apocalypto
take takes place during the beginning
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of the fall of their civilization
and early contact.
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The depictions of the people are done
in a relatively accurate manner, kind of,
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but it blends a lot of Aztec
imagery and incorporates
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a lot of their sacrificial methods
as well.
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More recently,
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we have, the character of Namor
in Black Panther two Wakanda Forever
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goes by his native name, Coco Khan,
who is the feather serpent, right?
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I mentioned earlier name War
also speaks Yucatan Mayan.
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So that's pretty cool.
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also not really recognized as Maya,
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01:00:06,869 --> 01:00:11,407
but in Star
Wars, the, the Yavin four base,
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01:00:12,542 --> 01:00:13,743
there's Mayan ruins.
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01:00:13,743 --> 01:00:16,512
Like, that's what
that's the ruins at there in the shot.
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It's Maya temples sticking up over the.
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I'll put the picture.
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It's fine, but those are
the ones that I've seen myself.
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I mean, I'm, I'm assuming there's more.
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So I'm going to be looking out
for some good movies that, you know,
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represent the Mesoamerican people
in a good way.
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I feel like, might be might be fun
to watch with all this newfound knowledge
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or might just be like
when I watch military movie
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01:00:36,132 --> 01:00:37,867
and point out all the inconsistencies.
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01:00:37,867 --> 01:00:40,770
I try not to do that,
but sometimes I can't help but notice.
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You know, let me know if you have any,
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01:00:42,271 --> 01:00:45,541
if you seen any of these
or what genuinely learned,
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01:00:45,842 --> 01:00:48,378
like what
you genuinely learned from this episode,
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01:00:48,378 --> 01:00:50,546
I want to know
if I made this interesting at all.
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01:00:50,546 --> 01:00:52,382
I feel like that was a lot of information.
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01:00:53,916 --> 01:00:55,652
but it is super interesting.
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01:00:55,652 --> 01:00:59,756
I mean, the, the timeline of the Mayan,
like how how well
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01:00:59,956 --> 01:01:04,460
they succeed did when they did,
I think is super impressive.
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01:01:04,460 --> 01:01:08,431
I think that the way that they built
I like that they like,
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01:01:08,431 --> 01:01:09,899
use their hieroglyphics
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01:01:09,899 --> 01:01:13,636
in such a way where it was like,
we're dating buildings as we build them.
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01:01:13,636 --> 01:01:15,471
Like, that's that's pretty badass.
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01:01:15,471 --> 01:01:18,508
I mean, I mean, just because, like,
we had to date
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01:01:18,508 --> 01:01:21,511
castles and ancient ruins
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01:01:21,577 --> 01:01:24,814
and other places and they're like,
this is when we made it right here.
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01:01:24,847 --> 01:01:26,482
Check it out. Super handy.
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01:01:26,482 --> 01:01:30,086
it's probably
because the aliens told them to, you know.
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01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:35,925
Hey, like, hey, there's going to be
some confused guy in his
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01:01:36,592 --> 01:01:39,896
in his two bedroom apartment
doing research on you guys,
:
01:01:39,896 --> 01:01:42,298
and he's going to really need to know
when he dated these.
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01:01:42,298 --> 01:01:43,833
When when they built them.
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01:01:43,833 --> 01:01:46,469
anyway, I hope you enjoyed this episode.
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I think this is a good episode
to kind of return to form with.
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01:01:51,074 --> 01:01:53,242
I, you know,
I do have some pretty exciting ideas
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01:01:53,242 --> 01:01:56,145
coming down the pipe,
but I also, you know, want your input.
:
01:01:56,145 --> 01:01:58,614
What topics
would you like to know more about?
:
01:01:58,614 --> 01:02:02,051
What types of ideas
have you enjoyed so far?
:
01:02:02,051 --> 01:02:06,322
Do you like these timeline
based topic episodes, or do you like when?
:
01:02:06,322 --> 01:02:09,459
I do like group episodes
where I discuss a few different stories
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01:02:09,459 --> 01:02:12,662
with an overarching theme,
like what kind of things do you enjoy?
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01:02:12,662 --> 01:02:16,532
You know, I I'm putting out this podcast
because I enjoy history,
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01:02:16,532 --> 01:02:19,435
but I also, you know,
I enjoy it from my perspective.
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01:02:19,435 --> 01:02:20,570
I want to have
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01:02:20,570 --> 01:02:24,540
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